Janis
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FIGGY & FLAPPER WHERE RU ?
Posted 9/5/2008 2:00:39 PM
If you peek in here send word you are okay!
We are all beginning to wonder if you are locked up in orange jumpsuits!
Posted 9/5/2008 2:00:39 PM
If you peek in here send word you are okay!
We are all beginning to wonder if you are locked up in orange jumpsuits!
HOME / CULTURAL SHOCK !
Posted 9/3/2008 4:58:38 PM
Home again, home again, lickety split!
Great time but less than great weather! We had high fog everyday and only a few hours of full sun each late afternoon and 2 evenings. I saw the stars once. Whether it was 60 or 80 degrees it felt the same! Not cold but not warm.
Got around some places I missed before and it was great!
Then you come home and I feel like I got shot by a sawed off shotgun!
My doctor has me scheduled for tests and consultants to the tune of 8 total appointments when all is hopefully done! I have laundry everywhere and camping stuff to put up. Today I am just catching up on mail and stuff. Tomorrow I have two appointments I found out about today!
If I am not starving in the AM I will get my blood test and just call it a med day!
My social security payments are so messed up and of 8 letters no two say the same thing! I think I actually got over paid but there is nothing they can do about it. I can prove I did not know it was an overpayment and can't afford to have it repaid monthly. Came home to 3 more letters from them. Got a call in to the case worker that I need an appointment.
Then I look at the other 2 that made no sense in my readjustment to society stage yesterday and Eureka! They want to know if I want to apply for two annutities that I am eligible from Johnson and Johnson. Two annuties that an attorney has been trying to get them to reveal for over 6 years. It is not going to make me rich but better off than I am! Plus it only gives a value 10 years ago and one 18 years ago. Maybe they will now choke up with the amount of my 401K that the ex forgot about when we divorced 22 years ago.At the 6 year mark they admitted there was one!
The goal here was that I die before I ever see a penny! When I had to apply for his SSA this spring the system caught the other accounts! It was the utltimate bad divorce! I got 3 kids with $200 dollars a month child support for each which was ridiculously low but he hid all his money. I got the 7 bags of stuff that the kids and I carried on a plane. He got everything we owned. All our clothes and personal property. The house and furnishings. The cars and the entire construction company.
California took away his visitation rights for a year until he returned our personal property and he gave me half of a low ball amount on the house for me to buy a house. It was a Texas divorce but CA. intervened!
Back to fun! I took lots of video and pics and when I have time and can figure out how or get a kid to do it I will get them on here! Forgot I could narrate and I think I am about to cuss out the driver in the dunes!
Took you guys on a road trip home! Just shot videos out the window.Then I got some narrated stuff that is not so boring.
Now I need an appointment with an accountant so I am off to do more business!
Posted 9/3/2008 4:58:38 PM
Home again, home again, lickety split!
Great time but less than great weather! We had high fog everyday and only a few hours of full sun each late afternoon and 2 evenings. I saw the stars once. Whether it was 60 or 80 degrees it felt the same! Not cold but not warm.
Got around some places I missed before and it was great!
Then you come home and I feel like I got shot by a sawed off shotgun!
My doctor has me scheduled for tests and consultants to the tune of 8 total appointments when all is hopefully done! I have laundry everywhere and camping stuff to put up. Today I am just catching up on mail and stuff. Tomorrow I have two appointments I found out about today!
If I am not starving in the AM I will get my blood test and just call it a med day!
My social security payments are so messed up and of 8 letters no two say the same thing! I think I actually got over paid but there is nothing they can do about it. I can prove I did not know it was an overpayment and can't afford to have it repaid monthly. Came home to 3 more letters from them. Got a call in to the case worker that I need an appointment.
Then I look at the other 2 that made no sense in my readjustment to society stage yesterday and Eureka! They want to know if I want to apply for two annutities that I am eligible from Johnson and Johnson. Two annuties that an attorney has been trying to get them to reveal for over 6 years. It is not going to make me rich but better off than I am! Plus it only gives a value 10 years ago and one 18 years ago. Maybe they will now choke up with the amount of my 401K that the ex forgot about when we divorced 22 years ago.At the 6 year mark they admitted there was one!
The goal here was that I die before I ever see a penny! When I had to apply for his SSA this spring the system caught the other accounts! It was the utltimate bad divorce! I got 3 kids with $200 dollars a month child support for each which was ridiculously low but he hid all his money. I got the 7 bags of stuff that the kids and I carried on a plane. He got everything we owned. All our clothes and personal property. The house and furnishings. The cars and the entire construction company.
California took away his visitation rights for a year until he returned our personal property and he gave me half of a low ball amount on the house for me to buy a house. It was a Texas divorce but CA. intervened!
Back to fun! I took lots of video and pics and when I have time and can figure out how or get a kid to do it I will get them on here! Forgot I could narrate and I think I am about to cuss out the driver in the dunes!
Took you guys on a road trip home! Just shot videos out the window.Then I got some narrated stuff that is not so boring.
Now I need an appointment with an accountant so I am off to do more business!
IT MUST BE 5:00 PM SOMEWHERE !
Posted 8/28/2008 7:02:13 PM
Or I'll take beer for my cat and whiskey for me!Who recorded that facsimile? Toby Keith? Sounds like some thing Willie Nelson would do.
Dang the best layed plans of mice and men oft times go astray!
I got real smart and repacked as I did laundry after my last trip. Great but I forgot what was or was not in there! So whip it out and replan. It is cooler at Pismo with the revised forecast.
Then I needed to do laundry. Just did not get to it.Then I did my typical flex alert thing! Wash the stuff and put it in the dryer but did not turn the dryer on. You got to admit you usually put the stuff straight in the dryer and dry it. I do not usually have to do laundry during flex alerts so it is a newbie.
Anyway all but a bath is done and record time 2 1/2 hours. Nerves frayed. Had to have it ready to load by 5:00PM.
(translation for non caleerforneeyons) Flex alert is when the power grid is really stressed because of high temps. You want to run your dryer coolest part of the day which is early morning. During peak hours you are asked to not run major appliances and conserve electricity. It is to your benefit because if it gets bad they do rolling blackouts. That means they close down the grid in areas on a rotation of several hours and you got no electric and maybe 107 degrees to deal with. I am close enough to the police station and main fire station that I will not get cut off unless a transformer gets knocked out. But I can put drain on the grid so someone else loses power.
Looking forward to probably the last camping trip of the year. I am getting pics of those dunes this time and then fetch a kid to download all my pics from last 2 trips.
Brian...go ahead and rub it in! Hope the party is for next weekend. Dang I missed one last time I camped.
Posted 8/28/2008 7:02:13 PM
Or I'll take beer for my cat and whiskey for me!Who recorded that facsimile? Toby Keith? Sounds like some thing Willie Nelson would do.
Dang the best layed plans of mice and men oft times go astray!
I got real smart and repacked as I did laundry after my last trip. Great but I forgot what was or was not in there! So whip it out and replan. It is cooler at Pismo with the revised forecast.
Then I needed to do laundry. Just did not get to it.Then I did my typical flex alert thing! Wash the stuff and put it in the dryer but did not turn the dryer on. You got to admit you usually put the stuff straight in the dryer and dry it. I do not usually have to do laundry during flex alerts so it is a newbie.
Anyway all but a bath is done and record time 2 1/2 hours. Nerves frayed. Had to have it ready to load by 5:00PM.
(translation for non caleerforneeyons) Flex alert is when the power grid is really stressed because of high temps. You want to run your dryer coolest part of the day which is early morning. During peak hours you are asked to not run major appliances and conserve electricity. It is to your benefit because if it gets bad they do rolling blackouts. That means they close down the grid in areas on a rotation of several hours and you got no electric and maybe 107 degrees to deal with. I am close enough to the police station and main fire station that I will not get cut off unless a transformer gets knocked out. But I can put drain on the grid so someone else loses power.
Looking forward to probably the last camping trip of the year. I am getting pics of those dunes this time and then fetch a kid to download all my pics from last 2 trips.
Brian...go ahead and rub it in! Hope the party is for next weekend. Dang I missed one last time I camped.
PARTY ON BRIAN's PAGE....SIGN UP!
Posted 8/27/2008 5:29:36 PM
Need to know who is coming and who is bringing what.
It is actually a newblog convention! Everyone gets there say but nothing serious will be addressed.
Posted 8/27/2008 5:29:36 PM
Need to know who is coming and who is bringing what.
It is actually a newblog convention! Everyone gets there say but nothing serious will be addressed.
I AM JOINING BRIAN IN THE BAD LUCK CLUB !
Posted 8/27/2008 1:00:28 PM
EYEGLASSES! When you have enough correction in there that walking across a room without them on is dangerous!
This is where the bad luck club membership began!
I got a new frame and Rx a year ago May. My glasses came back with the wrong tint and I had rose red lenses. Remake.I got a frame that is rimless on the bottom. A month later a lense falls out and gets scratched. Remake. I get the little wire thing replaced every 4 months to be sure. A lens falls out again and I step on it and it scratches it. Remake at my expense this time. Then the frames are too flimsy and once a month I have to have them adjusted.
One week after I had everything readjusted a lens fell out in the tent at Pismo. There was a Walmart so I went and they put it back in. That lasts 3 days and it falls out again! I go and get it fixed and make an appointment to get a new Rx.It fell out again! Decided to go to another frame I have and was only 2 years old and I liked it fine. That was one month ago.
Last weekend at the motel the night before the race my 'earpiece' it is called a temple broke off. I am like legally blind or so it seems! So I get the guy with me to go to the office and see if he can find some scotch tape to hold them together. Works!
Now I can't fold them up they must stay open. The new piece if available can't be gotten before I leave for 5 days of tent camping at Pismo! My last RX I can see barely well enough to get out of the tent but ...
any ideas on what may be the right size "box" to put them up in!?????
Posted 8/27/2008 1:00:28 PM
EYEGLASSES! When you have enough correction in there that walking across a room without them on is dangerous!
This is where the bad luck club membership began!
I got a new frame and Rx a year ago May. My glasses came back with the wrong tint and I had rose red lenses. Remake.I got a frame that is rimless on the bottom. A month later a lense falls out and gets scratched. Remake. I get the little wire thing replaced every 4 months to be sure. A lens falls out again and I step on it and it scratches it. Remake at my expense this time. Then the frames are too flimsy and once a month I have to have them adjusted.
One week after I had everything readjusted a lens fell out in the tent at Pismo. There was a Walmart so I went and they put it back in. That lasts 3 days and it falls out again! I go and get it fixed and make an appointment to get a new Rx.It fell out again! Decided to go to another frame I have and was only 2 years old and I liked it fine. That was one month ago.
Last weekend at the motel the night before the race my 'earpiece' it is called a temple broke off. I am like legally blind or so it seems! So I get the guy with me to go to the office and see if he can find some scotch tape to hold them together. Works!
Now I can't fold them up they must stay open. The new piece if available can't be gotten before I leave for 5 days of tent camping at Pismo! My last RX I can see barely well enough to get out of the tent but ...
any ideas on what may be the right size "box" to put them up in!?????
MY DAY AT THE RACES
Posted 8/26/2008 1:49:38 PM
It was great! Sorry to say imthelady...the weather was perfect! Needed a light jacket to get in but then it was nice and warm and not hot.
The seats were the best...Emmy I was not stuck in the middle of a long row! They were right above pit row and the start finish line and the huge screen they cover the race on.
They had an historic race with cars from the 1970's and they were awesome and on display afterward. Two other Indy class races and the main event.
The pre race show was a spectacular airshow that lasted 30 minutes by The Patriots precision flying team...cringe just watching what they do!
We got there at 9:00 AM so we got into the second of 9 parking fields. That means it was only about a mile to the crossing. Remember when kids were the crossing guards at schools? Well these dudes had not one but two sheriffs. Rather expensive use of tax dollars! Why not Infineon employees? Well the drivers coming in at this point were frothing at the mouth for fear of where they may have to park so maybe it was justified plus no way was anyone going to stop and let you cross that little 2 lane highway. Good advise here...never pass up a porta potty when you do not know where the next one is or skip the pot of coffee they give you at IHOP!
Another long walk and no clue where to go. Given that this is not a circular track, Figgy, was totally disoriented. Just followed where the most people were going. Two tunnel and 26 steps up and down each...my glutes still hurt...found the Main grandstand. Those 24 rows up look forboding. Like most everyone else at 18 I am wincing. I was not highly motivated to go back down for anything but made the trip at least 6 times for various reasons. Turned into a real test of how much are you out of shape? PLENTY!
Since Pismo is walking everywhere it should be a breeze after my training session!
Posted 8/26/2008 1:49:38 PM
It was great! Sorry to say imthelady...the weather was perfect! Needed a light jacket to get in but then it was nice and warm and not hot.
The seats were the best...Emmy I was not stuck in the middle of a long row! They were right above pit row and the start finish line and the huge screen they cover the race on.
They had an historic race with cars from the 1970's and they were awesome and on display afterward. Two other Indy class races and the main event.
The pre race show was a spectacular airshow that lasted 30 minutes by The Patriots precision flying team...cringe just watching what they do!
We got there at 9:00 AM so we got into the second of 9 parking fields. That means it was only about a mile to the crossing. Remember when kids were the crossing guards at schools? Well these dudes had not one but two sheriffs. Rather expensive use of tax dollars! Why not Infineon employees? Well the drivers coming in at this point were frothing at the mouth for fear of where they may have to park so maybe it was justified plus no way was anyone going to stop and let you cross that little 2 lane highway. Good advise here...never pass up a porta potty when you do not know where the next one is or skip the pot of coffee they give you at IHOP!
Another long walk and no clue where to go. Given that this is not a circular track, Figgy, was totally disoriented. Just followed where the most people were going. Two tunnel and 26 steps up and down each...my glutes still hurt...found the Main grandstand. Those 24 rows up look forboding. Like most everyone else at 18 I am wincing. I was not highly motivated to go back down for anything but made the trip at least 6 times for various reasons. Turned into a real test of how much are you out of shape? PLENTY!
Since Pismo is walking everywhere it should be a breeze after my training session!
I GOT TICKETS TO A RACE....PLACE NEEDS A LARGER FONT FOR THIS KIND OF NEWS
Posted 8/19/2008 3:38:19 PM
Someone knew someone who knew an Indy driver. He got me priority seating and a pit pass to the race Sunday at Infineon at Sonoma! Autographed! I am hoping to get one off of Danica Patrick and Helio Castroneves(DWTS) and others.
The seats are right on the start finish line.
Lucked out and got a motel room 16 miles away and great price!
Just hope the crowds and heat do not spoil it!
There is another race after the Indy so hopefully the traffic will not be too bad. It can be really bad getting out of there!
I am going Saturday morning but staying in Petaluma to get out early Sunday.
Then the next weekdend is 5 days off to Pismo Beach. Very busy month! Home one of four weekends.Picture my house...filthy dirty. It is going no where so later!
Posted 8/19/2008 3:38:19 PM
Someone knew someone who knew an Indy driver. He got me priority seating and a pit pass to the race Sunday at Infineon at Sonoma! Autographed! I am hoping to get one off of Danica Patrick and Helio Castroneves(DWTS) and others.
The seats are right on the start finish line.
Lucked out and got a motel room 16 miles away and great price!
Just hope the crowds and heat do not spoil it!
There is another race after the Indy so hopefully the traffic will not be too bad. It can be really bad getting out of there!
I am going Saturday morning but staying in Petaluma to get out early Sunday.
Then the next weekdend is 5 days off to Pismo Beach. Very busy month! Home one of four weekends.Picture my house...filthy dirty. It is going no where so later!
UPDATE ON NEWBLOG STATUS/ WHY THE LACK OF CONNECTION AND COMMENTS
Posted 8/18/2008 8:05:08 PM
A user brought to our attention that some of you may not know what happened on newblog. Why there was little or no activity for months and why a lot of users are just chatting page to page or PM's...leaving blogs not very commented.
Newblog was under attack by a spammer for almost a year but in Februaury it was so bad that malware was on here and you often could not get the site up at all or post. The owner,Scoots, tried several remedies but they failed. He then had to close down the site and rewrite and test a new program to keep bots and spammers off.
As a result we had to go to other places to communicate. We did not always find everyone so it was a mass reunion when the site got back up and everyone was getting caught up. We also figured out we were very addicted to the site and our blogging friends!Very few of us know each other "offline"...is that a word?
Newblog has a great feeling of family and many of us have been here for several years. You have your "family" and extended " family" which means that you know who they are but have less communication.
In better times and when the reunion is over you will always find one or many users saying welcome to newblog. In the spammer era we dared not try the page and I personally blocked anyone who had a "strange" screen name.
As another security measure Scoots gave Mistletoe and Brian administrative tools/mods/moderator privileges to suspend the account of anyone in violation of the terms of usage. There are others but they remain anonymous.
SO WELCOME TO NEWBLOG AND I HOPE YOU HAVE A WONDEFUL EXPERIENCE HERE!
Posted 8/18/2008 8:05:08 PM
A user brought to our attention that some of you may not know what happened on newblog. Why there was little or no activity for months and why a lot of users are just chatting page to page or PM's...leaving blogs not very commented.
Newblog was under attack by a spammer for almost a year but in Februaury it was so bad that malware was on here and you often could not get the site up at all or post. The owner,Scoots, tried several remedies but they failed. He then had to close down the site and rewrite and test a new program to keep bots and spammers off.
As a result we had to go to other places to communicate. We did not always find everyone so it was a mass reunion when the site got back up and everyone was getting caught up. We also figured out we were very addicted to the site and our blogging friends!Very few of us know each other "offline"...is that a word?
Newblog has a great feeling of family and many of us have been here for several years. You have your "family" and extended " family" which means that you know who they are but have less communication.
In better times and when the reunion is over you will always find one or many users saying welcome to newblog. In the spammer era we dared not try the page and I personally blocked anyone who had a "strange" screen name.
As another security measure Scoots gave Mistletoe and Brian administrative tools/mods/moderator privileges to suspend the account of anyone in violation of the terms of usage. There are others but they remain anonymous.
SO WELCOME TO NEWBLOG AND I HOPE YOU HAVE A WONDEFUL EXPERIENCE HERE!
DANGER..PLEASE READ !
Posted 8/18/2008 7:03:57 PM
We have quite a few 13 year olds on here recently.So far 2 I have found give their full name and location. The first one I messaged several times and showed her how with a mention of her father's name could give her her address and phone number and possible realtives.
She said she knew to be careful. Finally she removed her middle name!
We now have another and I got her address and phone number and an ariel view of her house with one click on a free search site. I have meassaged her and gave her my findings.
Please check the profile of these young users and if they give this info messsage them to delete it is not safe!
Now I know how predators get to them so easily! They do not understand the concept of internet privacy being an issue. I told both to have their parents/parent check their blog and profile!
Posted 8/18/2008 7:03:57 PM
We have quite a few 13 year olds on here recently.So far 2 I have found give their full name and location. The first one I messaged several times and showed her how with a mention of her father's name could give her her address and phone number and possible realtives.
She said she knew to be careful. Finally she removed her middle name!
We now have another and I got her address and phone number and an ariel view of her house with one click on a free search site. I have meassaged her and gave her my findings.
Please check the profile of these young users and if they give this info messsage them to delete it is not safe!
Now I know how predators get to them so easily! They do not understand the concept of internet privacy being an issue. I told both to have their parents/parent check their blog and profile!
A Bear-less Camping Trip!!!!!!!!!
Posted 8/17/2008 7:28:37 PM
No bears! Not a one! Food survived! No raid on the ice chest and no bear following me across the meadow with gawkers watching...umm wonder why so many people watching the meadow...duh...bear right behind me for an acre.Not one bear walked through my campsite! Yeah!
You probably do not know what a Poker Run is since I am the only 4 wheeler on here and I see no motorcycle addicts! BTW 4 wheeling is when you put all this stuff on a vehicle and go places no vehicle was meant to go! Fear factor is equivalent of I can only see the hood of the truck going uphill and can see none of the vehicle going downhill! This is best done without a "can of courage aka booze"! So you drive trails meant for deer and other agile creatures... not good hiking trails either... in a gas powered something that should not be there and at several points you get cards. Best hand wins.
The only other peril besides possible severe bodily injury rolling down a cliff is the above mentioned fear factor which may neccessitate a need to..ummm pee if you did not lose it on the hill...is the lack of "cover"! It gets to the point where you go...hope that guy 50 feet away does not know me or remember my name and is camped way away from me and will not recognize my naked butt as opposed to it covered.
Posted 8/17/2008 7:28:37 PM
No bears! Not a one! Food survived! No raid on the ice chest and no bear following me across the meadow with gawkers watching...umm wonder why so many people watching the meadow...duh...bear right behind me for an acre.Not one bear walked through my campsite! Yeah!
You probably do not know what a Poker Run is since I am the only 4 wheeler on here and I see no motorcycle addicts! BTW 4 wheeling is when you put all this stuff on a vehicle and go places no vehicle was meant to go! Fear factor is equivalent of I can only see the hood of the truck going uphill and can see none of the vehicle going downhill! This is best done without a "can of courage aka booze"! So you drive trails meant for deer and other agile creatures... not good hiking trails either... in a gas powered something that should not be there and at several points you get cards. Best hand wins.
The only other peril besides possible severe bodily injury rolling down a cliff is the above mentioned fear factor which may neccessitate a need to..ummm pee if you did not lose it on the hill...is the lack of "cover"! It gets to the point where you go...hope that guy 50 feet away does not know me or remember my name and is camped way away from me and will not recognize my naked butt as opposed to it covered.
Terms of Service Agreement for Newblog
Posted 8/13/2008 1:25:21 PM
RE: regato
Anyone having gotten this message comment if he seems to violate this.
shall not contain any viruses, Trojan horses, worms, time bombs, cancelbots or other computer programming routines that are intended to damage, detrimentally interfere with, surreptitiously intercept or expropriate any system, data, or personal information
Posted 8/13/2008 1:25:21 PM
RE: regato
Anyone having gotten this message comment if he seems to violate this.
shall not contain any viruses, Trojan horses, worms, time bombs, cancelbots or other computer programming routines that are intended to damage, detrimentally interfere with, surreptitiously intercept or expropriate any system, data, or personal information
08.05.06 - 08.05.08
Posted 8/10/2008 3:16:34 PM
Happy anninversary to me!
Two years at my favorite place on the internet!
Posted 8/10/2008 3:16:34 PM
Happy anninversary to me!
Two years at my favorite place on the internet!
We Owe Scoots A Major Thank You
Posted 8/9/2008 7:50:55 PM
Scoots we are not all very computer literate but I believe everyone here appreciates the amount of work you have put into this "fix". I can only vaguely comprehend what it took and then you had multiple sites to deal with!
This is a rather unique blogging site and has a feeling of family. Everyone is happy to be back home!
YOU DA DUDE!
Posted 8/9/2008 7:50:55 PM
Scoots we are not all very computer literate but I believe everyone here appreciates the amount of work you have put into this "fix". I can only vaguely comprehend what it took and then you had multiple sites to deal with!
This is a rather unique blogging site and has a feeling of family. Everyone is happy to be back home!
YOU DA DUDE!
HELLO OLD FRIEND!
Posted 8/9/2008 7:16:37 PM
Dang I never knew how much I liked this place until it was not around!
If I did not catch you on myspace update me on wassup!
Posted 8/9/2008 7:16:37 PM
Dang I never knew how much I liked this place until it was not around!
If I did not catch you on myspace update me on wassup!
WHO IS THE BOT BUSTER ?
Posted 7/16/2008 8:35:04 PM
I am betting on Brian but wierderthanthou has some odd connections...Misty could be sneaking around...or that drunk cat could have figured it out! Maybe Jayde and imthelady got a kid attack and went after them...beware those two if a kid is not treated right!
Psychoferret could have run out of wood to chop at the rage depot and got the bot in a frenzy!..or...Cindi got (PO'ed) over key chains! Or was it Figgy or Flapper interrupted at a war protest? Bush is always available as is Harper.Maybe a terrorist took mercy on our souls? Or the oil companies....where is Ogmug...it could be him! grannie of 3 was here and so was LUV69...the possiblities are endless!
So party time! Who is bringing what?
Posted 7/16/2008 8:35:04 PM
I am betting on Brian but wierderthanthou has some odd connections...Misty could be sneaking around...or that drunk cat could have figured it out! Maybe Jayde and imthelady got a kid attack and went after them...beware those two if a kid is not treated right!
Psychoferret could have run out of wood to chop at the rage depot and got the bot in a frenzy!..or...Cindi got (PO'ed) over key chains! Or was it Figgy or Flapper interrupted at a war protest? Bush is always available as is Harper.Maybe a terrorist took mercy on our souls? Or the oil companies....where is Ogmug...it could be him! grannie of 3 was here and so was LUV69...the possiblities are endless!
So party time! Who is bringing what?
ARE YOU WORTHLESS OR WORTH LESS?
Posted 7/13/2008 4:25:43 PM
I thought this was amusing!
Editorial: At this rate, you'll be worth nothing by 2030
Published 12:00 am PDT Sunday, July 13, 2008
Story appeared in FORUM section, Page E6
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Did you wake up last Friday feeling worthless? You're not imagining things. You may not be worthless, but you are worth less. Just ask the federal Environmental Protection Agency.
Last Thursday afternoon, the Associated Press reported that the EPA has lowered the value of a human life any human life, including yours to $6.9 million, down from $7.8 million per life just five years ago.
From this distance, it's not entirely clear what this devaluation reflects. Maybe it's tied to the decline in real estate values. (Everything else seems to be.) Maybe human lives have some sort of inverse relationship with oil prices. Or maybe it's simply supply and demand. The United States has about 12.2 million more people now than it did five years ago, so maybe supply has simply outstripped demand, creating a buyer's market for human lives.
You might wonder why the EPA is in the business of setting a value on human lives, which is the sort of undertaking that is usually associated with philosophers and religious leaders. The answer, from the AP: "When drawing up regulations, government agencies put a value on human life and then weigh the costs versus the lifesaving benefits of a proposed rule. The less a life is worth to the government, the less the need for a regulation, such as tighter restrictions on pollution."
It's hard to know which is more depressing: that by lowering its estimate of the value of a human life, an arm of the federal government can clear the way for more pollution, or that everyone's life has declined in value by almost $1 million in just half a decade.
By last Friday, California's Sen. Barbara Boxer was vowing to force EPA to change its valuation. Have at it, senator. And while you're at it, can you do anything about real estate values, too?
Posted 7/13/2008 4:25:43 PM
I thought this was amusing!
Editorial: At this rate, you'll be worth nothing by 2030
Published 12:00 am PDT Sunday, July 13, 2008
Story appeared in FORUM section, Page E6
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Did you wake up last Friday feeling worthless? You're not imagining things. You may not be worthless, but you are worth less. Just ask the federal Environmental Protection Agency.
Last Thursday afternoon, the Associated Press reported that the EPA has lowered the value of a human life any human life, including yours to $6.9 million, down from $7.8 million per life just five years ago.
From this distance, it's not entirely clear what this devaluation reflects. Maybe it's tied to the decline in real estate values. (Everything else seems to be.) Maybe human lives have some sort of inverse relationship with oil prices. Or maybe it's simply supply and demand. The United States has about 12.2 million more people now than it did five years ago, so maybe supply has simply outstripped demand, creating a buyer's market for human lives.
You might wonder why the EPA is in the business of setting a value on human lives, which is the sort of undertaking that is usually associated with philosophers and religious leaders. The answer, from the AP: "When drawing up regulations, government agencies put a value on human life and then weigh the costs versus the lifesaving benefits of a proposed rule. The less a life is worth to the government, the less the need for a regulation, such as tighter restrictions on pollution."
It's hard to know which is more depressing: that by lowering its estimate of the value of a human life, an arm of the federal government can clear the way for more pollution, or that everyone's life has declined in value by almost $1 million in just half a decade.
By last Friday, California's Sen. Barbara Boxer was vowing to force EPA to change its valuation. Have at it, senator. And while you're at it, can you do anything about real estate values, too?
Constance is just a ghost now!
Posted 7/12/2008 3:40:13 PM
Agnes is here and so is "Ripples of Hope"
Posted 7/12/2008 3:40:13 PM
Agnes is here and so is "Ripples of Hope"
CABIN FEVER / HEAT / OGMUG GOT IT WORSE !
Posted 7/9/2008 7:41:32 PM
Two days ago I had spent 5 days outdoors...the restaurants have outside seating! Great camping trip and Tahoe had great weather! Prior to that we had a bit of bad air...if you have not heard California was Hades a few weeks ago and over 1,000 fires...someone wrote a ltter to the editor claiming it was the wrath of God because of the right to gay marriages! I diversed! Diverse again...I cook little when camping because the dishes are a pain in the *derriere...and great restaurants where I go! Also I eat little.
I come home to triple digits and really bad air again! Our air is bad in triple digits due to Bush being president( he is the official default for problems ...Ogmug said so today). But the dang fires caught up in the high pressure area and even though Ogmug and I are not near them we get the friggin' smoke! Temps I can take...bad air and allergies do not mix! hack...cough...hack ...hack..gasp...and I canth breth thew my noth!
AC is running round the clock so I am sitting in a dark closed up house!!! Nortie winter style! The AC seldom runs at night and usually doors are opened! Wake up everytime it turns on! Plus I awake at sunrise but can't get to sleep early enough!
I had a flat tire today and the car had been in the garage for a week! BUSH did it...or Arnie the Ca. equivalent! geez, I am a registered republican!...lack of upper case not a typo!
The cat is reciting the rosary over and over...he is an outside cat...he has a Buddha in his tent and is wearing a Muslim turban complete with wetting system. Then he requested Kosher food andI think he covered all bases!
Someone amuse me!
* French for butt looks spelled wrong!
Posted 7/9/2008 7:41:32 PM
Two days ago I had spent 5 days outdoors...the restaurants have outside seating! Great camping trip and Tahoe had great weather! Prior to that we had a bit of bad air...if you have not heard California was Hades a few weeks ago and over 1,000 fires...someone wrote a ltter to the editor claiming it was the wrath of God because of the right to gay marriages! I diversed! Diverse again...I cook little when camping because the dishes are a pain in the *derriere...and great restaurants where I go! Also I eat little.
I come home to triple digits and really bad air again! Our air is bad in triple digits due to Bush being president( he is the official default for problems ...Ogmug said so today). But the dang fires caught up in the high pressure area and even though Ogmug and I are not near them we get the friggin' smoke! Temps I can take...bad air and allergies do not mix! hack...cough...hack ...hack..gasp...and I canth breth thew my noth!
AC is running round the clock so I am sitting in a dark closed up house!!! Nortie winter style! The AC seldom runs at night and usually doors are opened! Wake up everytime it turns on! Plus I awake at sunrise but can't get to sleep early enough!
I had a flat tire today and the car had been in the garage for a week! BUSH did it...or Arnie the Ca. equivalent! geez, I am a registered republican!...lack of upper case not a typo!
The cat is reciting the rosary over and over...he is an outside cat...he has a Buddha in his tent and is wearing a Muslim turban complete with wetting system. Then he requested Kosher food andI think he covered all bases!
Someone amuse me!
* French for butt looks spelled wrong!
BEAR ATTACK IN MY CAMPSITE
Posted 7/8/2008 1:01:42 PM
I made it to Tahoe for the hoilday and had a wonderful time! The weather was perfect and biking and hiking was great exercise!
Last night there the campground was pretty deserted...Sunday. This is major bear country so you use a bear locker for food storage at night.I use a camo blanket during the day.
Really tired that night and DUMMY left the ice chest out! I awoke about 11:00 PM and was not sure what woke me. AM I find it was bear #1 who needs rehab training because he missed my ice chest and no repespectable bear does that! Maybe be needs contact lenses because he thought that camo blanket was real foliage!
3:00 AM I awake again. This is about the time you hit the coolest temps and your body knows it no longer needs to keep all that beer,soda,wine, or in my case water I drank. Mad dash to the facility and several others were up also. Turns out that was bear #2 and he was huge!!!! I just missed him but heard plenty the next morning.
That was one very polite and neat bear also finicky about his diet! He got my ice chest! Carefully dicarded the camo blanket and did no damage to it! These bears are skilled! He opened 2 containers of cottage cheese with pineapple and did not tear the lid nor the pull off cover..also licked it clean! Did I mention that he took the food just behind the bear locker and out of the useable camping area. Feasted on a couple of pounds of grapes...they eat the stems. There was some leftover food containers from 2 restaurants. BTW you may have noticed by now that I do not cook much when I camp! He chowed down on the chow mein and lemon chicken~ very spicey~ and licked that clean...one puncture to container! You know how chinese food never sticks with you so he had to move on to the mexican food. One really good enchilada verde with rice on the side. Manners gone now in his satiated state and he leaves the chest opened!
Needless to say that spicey food made him thirsy and he did not like my beverages! He went next door and flipped open a chest opened up 1/2 gallon of milk and another of fruit punch. Just slurped it up in place!
Two morals to this story. #1...Use the bear locker when in bear country! #2...If you fail to do #1 make sure your beer is Tecate because, as much as bears love beer, they do not drink Tecate and you will have some for the next day!
I missed this guy by minutes but had I been out of my tent a few minutes earlier I would have been heading to the shower and not the toilet!
Not an actual picture but what was described to me about the size.
Posted 7/8/2008 1:01:42 PM
I made it to Tahoe for the hoilday and had a wonderful time! The weather was perfect and biking and hiking was great exercise!
Last night there the campground was pretty deserted...Sunday. This is major bear country so you use a bear locker for food storage at night.I use a camo blanket during the day.
Really tired that night and DUMMY left the ice chest out! I awoke about 11:00 PM and was not sure what woke me. AM I find it was bear #1 who needs rehab training because he missed my ice chest and no repespectable bear does that! Maybe be needs contact lenses because he thought that camo blanket was real foliage!
3:00 AM I awake again. This is about the time you hit the coolest temps and your body knows it no longer needs to keep all that beer,soda,wine, or in my case water I drank. Mad dash to the facility and several others were up also. Turns out that was bear #2 and he was huge!!!! I just missed him but heard plenty the next morning.
That was one very polite and neat bear also finicky about his diet! He got my ice chest! Carefully dicarded the camo blanket and did no damage to it! These bears are skilled! He opened 2 containers of cottage cheese with pineapple and did not tear the lid nor the pull off cover..also licked it clean! Did I mention that he took the food just behind the bear locker and out of the useable camping area. Feasted on a couple of pounds of grapes...they eat the stems. There was some leftover food containers from 2 restaurants. BTW you may have noticed by now that I do not cook much when I camp! He chowed down on the chow mein and lemon chicken~ very spicey~ and licked that clean...one puncture to container! You know how chinese food never sticks with you so he had to move on to the mexican food. One really good enchilada verde with rice on the side. Manners gone now in his satiated state and he leaves the chest opened!
Needless to say that spicey food made him thirsy and he did not like my beverages! He went next door and flipped open a chest opened up 1/2 gallon of milk and another of fruit punch. Just slurped it up in place!
Two morals to this story. #1...Use the bear locker when in bear country! #2...If you fail to do #1 make sure your beer is Tecate because, as much as bears love beer, they do not drink Tecate and you will have some for the next day!
I missed this guy by minutes but had I been out of my tent a few minutes earlier I would have been heading to the shower and not the toilet!
Not an actual picture but what was described to me about the size.
GOOD GUYS ARE STILL OUT THERE !
Posted 7/1/2008 12:57:11 PM
Just when you think the world is going to hell in a handbasket a ray of light!
My guy friend does lots of repair work for men he works for and charges a few bucks or barters. One of his co-workers stopped by Friday and saw the horrible problem I am having with grasses in my gardens. My veggie garden is about 400 sq. ft. nad you can hardly find the plants for the grasses and I have trouble spots in the flower beds. These things just appeared and shot up 2 feet almost overnight! This is no minor problem!
He generously got 2 other guys together with him and they are coming over after 10 hours of work today to clean out the weeds and insist it be free! I could not even find someone to pay to do it!
They are all Mexicans and know which are veggies and flowers and which are weeds. I have lots of volunteer peppers and tomato plants so they can take those if they wish. I also get plenty of give away stuff during prime times for production so I can share that. They love my tangerines over the winter holidays. Seems like little for that labor and I do not even know 2 of the men.
My neighbors are incredibly nice and I feel fortunate to have so many nice people in my life!It helps to balance out the jerks that are out there. I also really value my online friends. They are great source of support both in life issues and assistance with things I do not know how to do!
Posted 7/1/2008 12:57:11 PM
Just when you think the world is going to hell in a handbasket a ray of light!
My guy friend does lots of repair work for men he works for and charges a few bucks or barters. One of his co-workers stopped by Friday and saw the horrible problem I am having with grasses in my gardens. My veggie garden is about 400 sq. ft. nad you can hardly find the plants for the grasses and I have trouble spots in the flower beds. These things just appeared and shot up 2 feet almost overnight! This is no minor problem!
He generously got 2 other guys together with him and they are coming over after 10 hours of work today to clean out the weeds and insist it be free! I could not even find someone to pay to do it!
They are all Mexicans and know which are veggies and flowers and which are weeds. I have lots of volunteer peppers and tomato plants so they can take those if they wish. I also get plenty of give away stuff during prime times for production so I can share that. They love my tangerines over the winter holidays. Seems like little for that labor and I do not even know 2 of the men.
My neighbors are incredibly nice and I feel fortunate to have so many nice people in my life!It helps to balance out the jerks that are out there. I also really value my online friends. They are great source of support both in life issues and assistance with things I do not know how to do!
ANYONE ELSE STILL GETTING SERVER ERRORS ?
Posted 6/27/2008 11:49:20 AM
Message center works but I can't comment on anything. It drops off and says server error with the one exception of constance post about anyone here besides spammers.
Posted 6/27/2008 11:49:20 AM
Message center works but I can't comment on anything. It drops off and says server error with the one exception of constance post about anyone here besides spammers.
THE POWER OF ATTRACTION...NEW COMMENTS! RE: MEL
Posted 6/17/2008 1:06:49 PM
I will not post this on Mel's article because he is opposed to this type of thing. Please if anyone wants to comment do so here. The real issue is what is appropriate to say on a child's page!
"wings" you are totally out of line in your comments on here! If you have "problems" they are only going to get worse by the line you are following! Suggest you change your behavior or go some other place to blog!
We on newblog pride ourselves on being nice to each other and we are not a "get a guy" site! You are making rude comments in respect to two of our very longest and respected users.
Some factoids for you.Mel and imthelady are very close personal friends...not just on this blog.He is the only father that the daughter has ever known. Mel is not on here to meet chicks so forget it! You do not possess him and have no right to tell other users to back off from commenting.
None of this would really be very important but you posted on a child's page!!! That was the most innappropriate thing I have ever seen blogging!!!
General Comments
wings
Posted 6/13/2008 9:23:43 PM
Little one, you need to tell your mommy that mel has moved on. Mel is not your daddy so both of you need to accept reality. I hope you and your mommy find what you are looking for. Be good little one.
wings
Posted 6/9/2008 9:39:36 AM
hi little one. ur daddy is soooo cute. is he married to your mommy?
Posted 6/17/2008 1:06:49 PM
I will not post this on Mel's article because he is opposed to this type of thing. Please if anyone wants to comment do so here. The real issue is what is appropriate to say on a child's page!
"wings" you are totally out of line in your comments on here! If you have "problems" they are only going to get worse by the line you are following! Suggest you change your behavior or go some other place to blog!
We on newblog pride ourselves on being nice to each other and we are not a "get a guy" site! You are making rude comments in respect to two of our very longest and respected users.
Some factoids for you.Mel and imthelady are very close personal friends...not just on this blog.He is the only father that the daughter has ever known. Mel is not on here to meet chicks so forget it! You do not possess him and have no right to tell other users to back off from commenting.
None of this would really be very important but you posted on a child's page!!! That was the most innappropriate thing I have ever seen blogging!!!
General Comments
wings
Posted 6/13/2008 9:23:43 PM
Little one, you need to tell your mommy that mel has moved on. Mel is not your daddy so both of you need to accept reality. I hope you and your mommy find what you are looking for. Be good little one.
wings
Posted 6/9/2008 9:39:36 AM
hi little one. ur daddy is soooo cute. is he married to your mommy?
Diplomacy or Attack : Iran
Posted 6/11/2008 4:41:16 PM
(This article was posted as the opposing view to diplomacy)
Opinion
Opposing view: Prepare to attack Wed Jun 11, 12:21 AM ET
By Daniel Pipes
In a declassified National Intelligence Estimate, Iran: Nuclear Intentions and Capabilities, the U.S. intelligence agencies announced last December, "We judge with high confidence that in fall 2003, Tehran halted its nuclear weapons program."
This highly controversial conclusion encouraged the Iranian leadership to dismiss the possibility of an American attack, permitting Tehran to stake out an increasingly bellicose position and rendering further negotiations predictably futile.
Ideally, the Iranians themselves can still be induced to close down their nuclear program. The alternatives either a U.S. or Israeli attack, or allowing the apocalyptically minded leadership in Tehran to get The Bomb are far worse.
Reviving a sense of apprehension in Iran offers the unique way to achieve this goal. Only by convincing Tehran that it will never be allowed to have nuclear weapons can Washington persuade it to terminate its program, avoiding the need for a military campaign. This can yet be attained, but it requires a basic shift in U.S. policy.
First, the Bush administration must prepare for a possible attack on Iran's nuclear infrastructure and, second, signal this publicly. (Israeli leaders should do likewise, as some have done already.) Third, the administration must weather the inevitable tsunami of criticism. Fourth, it should encourage those governments most opposed to such an attack including the European Union, Russia and China to lean on Tehran to end its nuclear program.
Should this approach succeed, the crisis is resolved. Should it not, the U.S. presidential election will loom large. "There's only one thing worse than the United States exercising a military option," John McCain has said. "That is a nuclear-armed Iran." In contrast, Barack Obama has called for "tough-minded diplomacy," "stronger (economic) sanctions" and "alternative sources of energy" basically, a call for more of the same.
If George W. Bush's term ends with a McCain victory, Bush will likely punt, allowing McCain to decide on the next steps. But Obama's intention to continue with current failed policies suggests that, if he wins, and despite the tradition of outgoing presidents not undertaking major initiatives, Bush might initiate military action against Iran.
Daniel Pipes (www.DanielPipes.org)
Posted 6/11/2008 4:41:16 PM
(This article was posted as the opposing view to diplomacy)
Opinion
Opposing view: Prepare to attack Wed Jun 11, 12:21 AM ET
By Daniel Pipes
In a declassified National Intelligence Estimate, Iran: Nuclear Intentions and Capabilities, the U.S. intelligence agencies announced last December, "We judge with high confidence that in fall 2003, Tehran halted its nuclear weapons program."
This highly controversial conclusion encouraged the Iranian leadership to dismiss the possibility of an American attack, permitting Tehran to stake out an increasingly bellicose position and rendering further negotiations predictably futile.
Ideally, the Iranians themselves can still be induced to close down their nuclear program. The alternatives either a U.S. or Israeli attack, or allowing the apocalyptically minded leadership in Tehran to get The Bomb are far worse.
Reviving a sense of apprehension in Iran offers the unique way to achieve this goal. Only by convincing Tehran that it will never be allowed to have nuclear weapons can Washington persuade it to terminate its program, avoiding the need for a military campaign. This can yet be attained, but it requires a basic shift in U.S. policy.
First, the Bush administration must prepare for a possible attack on Iran's nuclear infrastructure and, second, signal this publicly. (Israeli leaders should do likewise, as some have done already.) Third, the administration must weather the inevitable tsunami of criticism. Fourth, it should encourage those governments most opposed to such an attack including the European Union, Russia and China to lean on Tehran to end its nuclear program.
Should this approach succeed, the crisis is resolved. Should it not, the U.S. presidential election will loom large. "There's only one thing worse than the United States exercising a military option," John McCain has said. "That is a nuclear-armed Iran." In contrast, Barack Obama has called for "tough-minded diplomacy," "stronger (economic) sanctions" and "alternative sources of energy" basically, a call for more of the same.
If George W. Bush's term ends with a McCain victory, Bush will likely punt, allowing McCain to decide on the next steps. But Obama's intention to continue with current failed policies suggests that, if he wins, and despite the tradition of outgoing presidents not undertaking major initiatives, Bush might initiate military action against Iran.
Daniel Pipes (www.DanielPipes.org)
McCain and Obama on the new season of "ARMY WIVES"
Posted 6/9/2008 7:39:59 PM
Anyone besides me see the error one of these candidates makes in their spot on "Army Wives" ?
McCain: Army Wives has a lot of great twists and turns. I know because Cindy makes me watch with her, and we're looking forward to season two. But the show also sheds light on the strength and sacrifice of our nation's military families. As we honor and cherish the sacrifices made by those who have served our nation, we should also honor those who are currently in harm's way, defending our freedom, and the brave families that await their safe return To all men and women serving in our armed forces, to their families and to our veterans: You are the best Americans, and our best efforts to honor our debts to you will fall far short of what you have given and what you deserve.
Obama: I know you all are waiting to see what happens this season on Army Wives. But I just wanted to take a moment to honor the people this show is about. Army Wives tells a story that's being lived by families across this country -- by loved ones who are counting the days until the next R&R; by young children whose parents have been deployed so many times they barely know them; by parents who sit by the phone, waiting anxiously for their son or daughter to call; and by all who mourn the loss of one of America's fallen heroes our entire nation owes our troops and those who love them our abiding gratitude -- for their service, their courage and for the sacrifice they make each day on our behalf.
From a review in the Los Angeles Times
If "Army Wives" is political in any way, it is in commenting on how war can ravage even the most serene of families. War is always absurd, but the absurdity it creates at home can be devastating too.
Posted 6/9/2008 7:39:59 PM
Anyone besides me see the error one of these candidates makes in their spot on "Army Wives" ?
McCain: Army Wives has a lot of great twists and turns. I know because Cindy makes me watch with her, and we're looking forward to season two. But the show also sheds light on the strength and sacrifice of our nation's military families. As we honor and cherish the sacrifices made by those who have served our nation, we should also honor those who are currently in harm's way, defending our freedom, and the brave families that await their safe return To all men and women serving in our armed forces, to their families and to our veterans: You are the best Americans, and our best efforts to honor our debts to you will fall far short of what you have given and what you deserve.
Obama: I know you all are waiting to see what happens this season on Army Wives. But I just wanted to take a moment to honor the people this show is about. Army Wives tells a story that's being lived by families across this country -- by loved ones who are counting the days until the next R&R; by young children whose parents have been deployed so many times they barely know them; by parents who sit by the phone, waiting anxiously for their son or daughter to call; and by all who mourn the loss of one of America's fallen heroes our entire nation owes our troops and those who love them our abiding gratitude -- for their service, their courage and for the sacrifice they make each day on our behalf.
From a review in the Los Angeles Times
If "Army Wives" is political in any way, it is in commenting on how war can ravage even the most serene of families. War is always absurd, but the absurdity it creates at home can be devastating too.
New on Newblog?
Posted 6/8/2008 7:40:13 PM
No offense to anyone new one "newblog" on here but since I had a minor problem with a few new bloggers I have blocked all new users until I see that they are legitmate bloggers.
I will unblock anyone who is a legitmate blogger and I welcome new friends!
Welcome to newblog!
Posted 6/8/2008 7:40:13 PM
No offense to anyone new one "newblog" on here but since I had a minor problem with a few new bloggers I have blocked all new users until I see that they are legitmate bloggers.
I will unblock anyone who is a legitmate blogger and I welcome new friends!
Welcome to newblog!
RESPONSE to JK COMMENTS..."ISRAEL"
Posted 6/8/2008 5:25:58 PM
First of all may I state that I am a registered Republican so that premise of yours is incorrect...even most democrats would call foul.You are ASSUMING my alliance with the Democratic party or at least left an implication.
I do not believe that either party always has the right solutions to the problems we are confronted with. I do not defend nor do I repudiate an idea just because of the Republican party stance.
If you read my comment again you wil note that I used the word ironic. Meaning that Israel was saying they could have nukes but their philosophical opponent was wrong to have them. I agreed with you! I also stated that no one should be in defiance of the Ban on Nuclear Weapons agreeing with the premises in your response. Israel is BELIEVED but not acknowledging nuclear weapons.
Since no one will argue that a nuclear weapon is a weapon of mass destruction why have we not with more evidence attacked Israel as we did Iraq! You state you believe the now disproved WMD's were not in Iraq but we belong there and say you know Israel has WMDs so I can LOGICALLY conclude that you therefore would support an attack on Iran and Israel.
Iraq = Israel = WMDs
Iran = the above
Corrective measure is military attack. Therefore we attack all 3 using your premises and beliefs as emperical evidence of your beliefs.
I have further stated a widely accepted definition of critical thinking/logical/scientific method. I am also citing one of many very learned people who have written textbooks for college study.That would be one sample of my empirical inforamtion and he cites many learned people who also believe this.
My response was very logical!
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Jkrapture
Added 6/7/2008 4:54:09 PM
Yeah, except when your world leader is a religious nut and might consider himself a universal martyr. plus, if one sudden surprise attack of a nuclear weapon goes off, and we don't know exactly which government pulled it off, do you really think the world will retaliate against another nation without knowing it wasn't a terrorist group. SO a nuke could be used without causing the end of the world.
Your logic of just because we have nukes or Israel anyone else should have them is extremely illogical, that even most democrats would call foul, not to mention the same reason we don't give felons guns but still have the right to bear arms is not unconstitutional.
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Janis
Added 6/6/2008 2:40:41 PM
I got some clarity on this today. Iran was retalliating to a threat by Israel to bomb them since sanctions have not stopped the nuclear proliferation.Ironic that Israel has nuclear weapons. The Cold War is over and the guy with the greatest fire power no longer pulls the strings. I believe the world is aware that if the nuclear holocaust were to be started there would be no winner. Every country should sign and abide by that treaty. I posted some info about Israel because its history is unique and the reason it wars goes back to the 12 Tribes.
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Logical thinking is also called critical thinking synonymously.
The Three Central Components of Scientific and Critical Thinking
What is scientific thinking? At this point, it is customary to discuss questions, observations, data, hypotheses, testing, and theories, which are the formal parts of the scientific method, but these are NOT the most important components of the scientific method. The scientific method is practiced within a context of scientific thinking, and scientific (and critical) thinking is based on three things: using empirical evidence (empiricism), practicing logical reasoning (rationalism), and possessing a skeptical attitude (skepticism) about presumed knowledge that leads to self-questioning, holding tentative conclusions, and being undogmatic *(willingness to change one's beliefs). These three ideas or principles are universal throughout science; without them, there would be no scientific or critical thinking.
source was a syllabus for a college course in the scietific method.
* you are sounding very dogmatic in this post
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Nuclear War:
Inevitable or Preventable?
Martin E. Hellman Professor of Electrical Engineering, Stanford University. Dr. Hellman is best known as the inventor of the public key and trap door cryptographic techniques. He is a Fellow of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers.
The Nuclear Gamble almost everyone agrees that nuclear weapons cannot be used to advantage because to do so would be suicide. But the policy of nuclear deterrence requires that those weapons always be ready for use. Deterrence is therefore a gamble that what we are always ready to do, we will not ever do. The gamble has worked for the last forty years but, in the long run, is it
a good bet?
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Another theory supports that the only way to stop this war is a pre-emptive strike. That is what is happening in Iraq or would be if they had WMDs. I do not subscribe to this belief.This belief was also why so many had nuclear weapons during the Cold War...the belief that the ability to have a pre-emptive strike would keep everyone at bay.
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Cussing in your comments.
You state that this was to get attention. It did! It made your entire post sound like a dogmatic lunatic bent on being right and not open to further knowledge that would either modify your thinking or confirm it.
This was debate not a social arguement between two buddies accustomed to cussing in casual conversation.
Then one is inclined to again weigh the merit of the infromation given the behavior of the delivery person.
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JK
you state...
if one sudden surprise attack of a nuclear weapon goes off, and we don't know exactly which government pulled it off, do you really think the world will retaliate against another nation without knowing it wasn't a terrorist group. SO a nuke could be used without causing the end of the world.
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JK
do you really think the world will retaliate against another nation without knowing it wasn't a terrorist group
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Janis
It would ignore a nuclear strike by a country not believed to have terrorist?
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Janis
I believe our technology is way beyond..."who fired that bomb?"
Posted 6/8/2008 5:25:58 PM
First of all may I state that I am a registered Republican so that premise of yours is incorrect...even most democrats would call foul.You are ASSUMING my alliance with the Democratic party or at least left an implication.
I do not believe that either party always has the right solutions to the problems we are confronted with. I do not defend nor do I repudiate an idea just because of the Republican party stance.
If you read my comment again you wil note that I used the word ironic. Meaning that Israel was saying they could have nukes but their philosophical opponent was wrong to have them. I agreed with you! I also stated that no one should be in defiance of the Ban on Nuclear Weapons agreeing with the premises in your response. Israel is BELIEVED but not acknowledging nuclear weapons.
Since no one will argue that a nuclear weapon is a weapon of mass destruction why have we not with more evidence attacked Israel as we did Iraq! You state you believe the now disproved WMD's were not in Iraq but we belong there and say you know Israel has WMDs so I can LOGICALLY conclude that you therefore would support an attack on Iran and Israel.
Iraq = Israel = WMDs
Iran = the above
Corrective measure is military attack. Therefore we attack all 3 using your premises and beliefs as emperical evidence of your beliefs.
I have further stated a widely accepted definition of critical thinking/logical/scientific method. I am also citing one of many very learned people who have written textbooks for college study.That would be one sample of my empirical inforamtion and he cites many learned people who also believe this.
My response was very logical!
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Jkrapture
Added 6/7/2008 4:54:09 PM
Yeah, except when your world leader is a religious nut and might consider himself a universal martyr. plus, if one sudden surprise attack of a nuclear weapon goes off, and we don't know exactly which government pulled it off, do you really think the world will retaliate against another nation without knowing it wasn't a terrorist group. SO a nuke could be used without causing the end of the world.
Your logic of just because we have nukes or Israel anyone else should have them is extremely illogical, that even most democrats would call foul, not to mention the same reason we don't give felons guns but still have the right to bear arms is not unconstitutional.
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Janis
Added 6/6/2008 2:40:41 PM
I got some clarity on this today. Iran was retalliating to a threat by Israel to bomb them since sanctions have not stopped the nuclear proliferation.Ironic that Israel has nuclear weapons. The Cold War is over and the guy with the greatest fire power no longer pulls the strings. I believe the world is aware that if the nuclear holocaust were to be started there would be no winner. Every country should sign and abide by that treaty. I posted some info about Israel because its history is unique and the reason it wars goes back to the 12 Tribes.
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Logical thinking is also called critical thinking synonymously.
The Three Central Components of Scientific and Critical Thinking
What is scientific thinking? At this point, it is customary to discuss questions, observations, data, hypotheses, testing, and theories, which are the formal parts of the scientific method, but these are NOT the most important components of the scientific method. The scientific method is practiced within a context of scientific thinking, and scientific (and critical) thinking is based on three things: using empirical evidence (empiricism), practicing logical reasoning (rationalism), and possessing a skeptical attitude (skepticism) about presumed knowledge that leads to self-questioning, holding tentative conclusions, and being undogmatic *(willingness to change one's beliefs). These three ideas or principles are universal throughout science; without them, there would be no scientific or critical thinking.
source was a syllabus for a college course in the scietific method.
* you are sounding very dogmatic in this post
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Nuclear War:
Inevitable or Preventable?
Martin E. Hellman Professor of Electrical Engineering, Stanford University. Dr. Hellman is best known as the inventor of the public key and trap door cryptographic techniques. He is a Fellow of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers.
The Nuclear Gamble almost everyone agrees that nuclear weapons cannot be used to advantage because to do so would be suicide. But the policy of nuclear deterrence requires that those weapons always be ready for use. Deterrence is therefore a gamble that what we are always ready to do, we will not ever do. The gamble has worked for the last forty years but, in the long run, is it
a good bet?
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Another theory supports that the only way to stop this war is a pre-emptive strike. That is what is happening in Iraq or would be if they had WMDs. I do not subscribe to this belief.This belief was also why so many had nuclear weapons during the Cold War...the belief that the ability to have a pre-emptive strike would keep everyone at bay.
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Cussing in your comments.
You state that this was to get attention. It did! It made your entire post sound like a dogmatic lunatic bent on being right and not open to further knowledge that would either modify your thinking or confirm it.
This was debate not a social arguement between two buddies accustomed to cussing in casual conversation.
Then one is inclined to again weigh the merit of the infromation given the behavior of the delivery person.
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JK
you state...
if one sudden surprise attack of a nuclear weapon goes off, and we don't know exactly which government pulled it off, do you really think the world will retaliate against another nation without knowing it wasn't a terrorist group. SO a nuke could be used without causing the end of the world.
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JK
do you really think the world will retaliate against another nation without knowing it wasn't a terrorist group
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Janis
It would ignore a nuclear strike by a country not believed to have terrorist?
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Janis
I believe our technology is way beyond..."who fired that bomb?"
ISRAEL...HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE
Posted 6/6/2008 1:47:52 PM
Before passing judgement on these peoples I believe it is necessary to be reminded of what has happened there through the course of history.
Early roots
Further information: History of ancient Israel and Judah
Roman garrison ruins at the foot of MasadaThe Land of Israel, known in Hebrew as Eretz Yisrael, has been sacred to the Jewish people since the time of the biblical patriarchs: Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Scholars have placed this period in the early 2nd millennium BCE.[22] According to the Torah, the Land of Israel was promised to the Jews, by God, as their homeland,[23][24] and the sites holiest to Judaism are located there. According to the traditional view, around the 11th century BCE, the first of a series of Israelite kingdoms and states established rule over the region; these Israelite kingdoms and states ruled intermittently for the following one thousand years.[25]
Between the time of the Jewish kingdoms and the 7th-century Muslim conquests, the Land of Israel fell under Assyrian, Babylonian, Persian, Greek, Roman, Sassanian, and Byzantine rule.[26] Jewish presence in the region dwindled after the failure of the Bar Kokhba revolt against the Roman Empire in 132 CE and the resultant large-scale expulsion of Jews. In 628/9, the Byzantine Emperor Heraclius conducted a massacre and expulsion of the Jews, at which point the Jewish population probably reached its lowest point. Nevertheless, a continuous Jewish presence in Palestine remained. Although the main Jewish population shifted from the Judea region to the Galilee,[27] the Mishnah and part of the Talmud, among Judaism's most important religious texts, were composed in Israel during this period.[28] The Land of Israel was captured from the Byzantine Empire around 636 CE during the initial Muslim conquests. Control of the region transferred between the Umayyads,[29] Abbasids,[30] and Crusaders over the next six centuries, before falling in the hands of the Mamluk Sultanate, in 1260. In 1516, the Land of Israel became a part of the Ottoman Empire, which ruled the region until the 20th century.[31]
Zionism and the British Mandate
Main articles: History of Zionism, Aliyah, British Mandate of Palestine, and British Conflict with Zionism
See also: 1922 Text: League of Nations Palestine Mandate, Jewish refugees, and Timeline of Zionism
Aliyah to Israel and settlement
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Pre-Zionist Aliyah
The Return to Zion
The Old Yishuv
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Prior to the founding of Israel
First Aliyah
Second Aliyah
During WWI
Third Aliyah
Fourth Aliyah
Fifth Aliyah
During and after WWII
Berihah
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After the founding of Israel
Operation Magic Carpet
Operation Ezra and Nehemiah
Jewish exodus from Arab lands
Polish aliyah in 1968
Aliyah from the Soviet Union in the 1970s
Aliyah from Ethiopia
Aliyah from the Commonwealth of Independent States in the 1990s
Aliyah from Latin America in the 2000s
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Related topics
Jewish history Jewish diaspora History of the Jews in the Land of Israel Yishuv History of Zionism (Timeline) Revival of Hebrew language Religious Zionism Haredim and Zionism Anti-Zionism
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Jews living in the Diaspora have long aspired to return to Zion and the Land of Israel.[32] That hope and yearning was articulated in the Bible,[33] and is a central theme in the Jewish prayer book. Beginning in the twelfth century, Catholic persecution of Jews led to a steady stream leaving Europe to settle in the Holy Land, increasing in numbers after Jews were expelled from Spain in 1492.[34] During the 16th century large communities struck roots in the Four Holy Cities, and in the second half of the 18th century, entire Hasidic communities from eastern Europe settled in the Holy Land.[35]
Theodor Herzl, visionary of the Jewish StateThe first large wave of modern immigration, known as the First Aliyah (Hebrew: עלייה), began in 1881, as Jews fled pogroms in Eastern Europe.[36] While the Zionist movement already existed in theory, Theodor Herzl is credited with founding political Zionism,[37] a movement which sought to establish a Jewish state in the Land of Israel, by elevating the Jewish Question to the international plane.[38] In 1896, Herzl published Der Judenstaat (The Jewish State), offering his vision of a future state; the following year he presided over the first World Zionist Congress.[39]
The Second Aliyah (19041914), began after the Kishinev pogrom. Some 40,000 Jews settled in Palestine.[36] Both the first and second waves of migrants were mainly Orthodox Jews,[40] but those in the Second Aliyah included socialist pioneers who established the kibbutz movement.[41] During World War I, British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour issued what became known as the Balfour Declaration, which "view[ed] with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people."[42] The Jewish Legion, a group of battalions composed primarily of Zionist volunteers, assisted in the British conquest of Palestine. Arab opposition to the plan led to the 1920 Palestine riots and the formation of the Jewish organization known as the Haganah (meaning "The Defense" in Hebrew), from which the Irgun and Lehi split off.[43]
In 1922, the League of Nations granted the United Kingdom a mandate over Palestine for the express purpose of "placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home".[44] The population of the area at this time was predominantly Muslim Arab, while the largest urban area in the region, Jerusalem, was predominantly Jewish.[45]
Jewish immigration continued with the Third Aliyah (19191923) and Fourth Aliyah (19241929), which together brought 100,000 Jews to Palestine.[36] In the wake of the Jaffa riots in the early days of the Mandate, the British restricted Jewish immigration and territory slated for the Jewish state was allocated to Transjordan.[46] The rise of Nazism in the 1930s led to the Fifth Aliyah, with an influx of a quarter of a million Jews. This influx resulted in the Arab revolt of 19361939 and led the British to cap immigration with the White Paper of 1939. With countries around the world turning away Jewish refugees fleeing the Holocaust, a clandestine movement known as Aliyah Bet was organized to bring Jews to Palestine.[36] By the end of World War II, Jews accounted for 33% of the population of Palestine, up from 11% in 1922.[47][48]
Independence and first years
Main articles: History of Israel, 1947-1948 Civil War in Mandatory Palestine, 1948 Arab-Israeli War, and Declaration of Independence (Israel)
See also: Israel and the United Nations, Jewish exodus from Arab lands, 1948 Palestinian exodus, and Sh'erit ha-Pletah
David Ben-Gurion proclaiming Israeli independence on May 14, 1948 below a portrait of Theodor HerzlAfter 1945 the United Kingdom became embroiled in an increasingly violent conflict with the Jews.[49] In 1947, the British government withdrew from commitment to the Mandate of Palestine, stating it was unable to arrive at a solution acceptable to both Arabs and Jews.[50] The newly-created United Nations approved the UN Partition Plan (United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181) on November 29, 1947, dividing the country into two states, one Arab and one Jewish. Jerusalem was to be designated an international city a corpus separatum administered by the UN to avoid conflict over its status.[51] The Jewish community accepted the plan,[52] but the Arab League and Arab Higher Committee rejected it.[53]
Regardless, the State of Israel was proclaimed on May 14, 1948, one day before the expiry of the British Mandate for Palestine.[54] Not long after, five Arab countries Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and Iraq attacked Israel, launching the 1948 Arab-Israeli War,[54]although conflict between the Jews and Arabs of Palestine started earlier. After a year of fighting, a ceasefire was declared and temporary borders, known as the Green Line, were established. Jordan annexed what became known as the West Bank and East Jerusalem, and Egypt took control of the Gaza Strip. Israel was admitted as a member of the United Nations on May 11, 1949.[55]. During the war 711,000 Arabs, according to UN estimates, or about 80% of the previous Arab population, fled the country.[56] The fate of the Palestinian refugees today is a major point of contention in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.[57][58]
In the early years of the state, the Labor Zionist movement led by Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion dominated Israeli politics.[59][60] These years were marked by mass immigration of Holocaust survivors and an influx of Jews persecuted in Arab lands. The population of Israel rose from 800,000 to two million between 1948 and 1958.[61] Most arrived as refugees with no possessions and were housed in temporary camps known as ma'abarot. By 1952, over 200,000 immigrants were living in these tent cities. The need to solve the crisis led Ben-Gurion to sign a reparations agreement with West Germany that triggered mass protests by Jews angered at the idea of Israel "doing business" with Germany.[62]
During the 1950s, Israel was frequently attacked by Palestinian fedayeen, mainly from the Egyptian-occupied Gaza Strip.[63] In 1956, Israel joined a secret alliance with The United Kingdom and France aimed at recapturing the Suez Canal, which the Egyptians had nationalized (see the Suez Crisis). Despite capturing the Sinai Peninsula, Israel was forced to retreat due to pressure from the United States and the Soviet Union in return for guarantees of Israeli shipping rights in the Red Sea and the Canal.[64]
At the start of the following decade, Israel captured Adolf Eichmann, an architect of the Final Solution hiding in Argentina, and brought him to trial.[65] The trial had a major impact on public awareness of the Holocaust,[66] and to date Eichmann remains the only person sentenced to death by Israeli courts.[67]
Posted 6/6/2008 1:47:52 PM
Before passing judgement on these peoples I believe it is necessary to be reminded of what has happened there through the course of history.
Early roots
Further information: History of ancient Israel and Judah
Roman garrison ruins at the foot of MasadaThe Land of Israel, known in Hebrew as Eretz Yisrael, has been sacred to the Jewish people since the time of the biblical patriarchs: Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Scholars have placed this period in the early 2nd millennium BCE.[22] According to the Torah, the Land of Israel was promised to the Jews, by God, as their homeland,[23][24] and the sites holiest to Judaism are located there. According to the traditional view, around the 11th century BCE, the first of a series of Israelite kingdoms and states established rule over the region; these Israelite kingdoms and states ruled intermittently for the following one thousand years.[25]
Between the time of the Jewish kingdoms and the 7th-century Muslim conquests, the Land of Israel fell under Assyrian, Babylonian, Persian, Greek, Roman, Sassanian, and Byzantine rule.[26] Jewish presence in the region dwindled after the failure of the Bar Kokhba revolt against the Roman Empire in 132 CE and the resultant large-scale expulsion of Jews. In 628/9, the Byzantine Emperor Heraclius conducted a massacre and expulsion of the Jews, at which point the Jewish population probably reached its lowest point. Nevertheless, a continuous Jewish presence in Palestine remained. Although the main Jewish population shifted from the Judea region to the Galilee,[27] the Mishnah and part of the Talmud, among Judaism's most important religious texts, were composed in Israel during this period.[28] The Land of Israel was captured from the Byzantine Empire around 636 CE during the initial Muslim conquests. Control of the region transferred between the Umayyads,[29] Abbasids,[30] and Crusaders over the next six centuries, before falling in the hands of the Mamluk Sultanate, in 1260. In 1516, the Land of Israel became a part of the Ottoman Empire, which ruled the region until the 20th century.[31]
Zionism and the British Mandate
Main articles: History of Zionism, Aliyah, British Mandate of Palestine, and British Conflict with Zionism
See also: 1922 Text: League of Nations Palestine Mandate, Jewish refugees, and Timeline of Zionism
Aliyah to Israel and settlement
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Pre-Zionist Aliyah
The Return to Zion
The Old Yishuv
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Prior to the founding of Israel
First Aliyah
Second Aliyah
During WWI
Third Aliyah
Fourth Aliyah
Fifth Aliyah
During and after WWII
Berihah
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After the founding of Israel
Operation Magic Carpet
Operation Ezra and Nehemiah
Jewish exodus from Arab lands
Polish aliyah in 1968
Aliyah from the Soviet Union in the 1970s
Aliyah from Ethiopia
Aliyah from the Commonwealth of Independent States in the 1990s
Aliyah from Latin America in the 2000s
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Related topics
Jewish history Jewish diaspora History of the Jews in the Land of Israel Yishuv History of Zionism (Timeline) Revival of Hebrew language Religious Zionism Haredim and Zionism Anti-Zionism
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
v d e
Jews living in the Diaspora have long aspired to return to Zion and the Land of Israel.[32] That hope and yearning was articulated in the Bible,[33] and is a central theme in the Jewish prayer book. Beginning in the twelfth century, Catholic persecution of Jews led to a steady stream leaving Europe to settle in the Holy Land, increasing in numbers after Jews were expelled from Spain in 1492.[34] During the 16th century large communities struck roots in the Four Holy Cities, and in the second half of the 18th century, entire Hasidic communities from eastern Europe settled in the Holy Land.[35]
Theodor Herzl, visionary of the Jewish StateThe first large wave of modern immigration, known as the First Aliyah (Hebrew: עלייה), began in 1881, as Jews fled pogroms in Eastern Europe.[36] While the Zionist movement already existed in theory, Theodor Herzl is credited with founding political Zionism,[37] a movement which sought to establish a Jewish state in the Land of Israel, by elevating the Jewish Question to the international plane.[38] In 1896, Herzl published Der Judenstaat (The Jewish State), offering his vision of a future state; the following year he presided over the first World Zionist Congress.[39]
The Second Aliyah (19041914), began after the Kishinev pogrom. Some 40,000 Jews settled in Palestine.[36] Both the first and second waves of migrants were mainly Orthodox Jews,[40] but those in the Second Aliyah included socialist pioneers who established the kibbutz movement.[41] During World War I, British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour issued what became known as the Balfour Declaration, which "view[ed] with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people."[42] The Jewish Legion, a group of battalions composed primarily of Zionist volunteers, assisted in the British conquest of Palestine. Arab opposition to the plan led to the 1920 Palestine riots and the formation of the Jewish organization known as the Haganah (meaning "The Defense" in Hebrew), from which the Irgun and Lehi split off.[43]
In 1922, the League of Nations granted the United Kingdom a mandate over Palestine for the express purpose of "placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home".[44] The population of the area at this time was predominantly Muslim Arab, while the largest urban area in the region, Jerusalem, was predominantly Jewish.[45]
Jewish immigration continued with the Third Aliyah (19191923) and Fourth Aliyah (19241929), which together brought 100,000 Jews to Palestine.[36] In the wake of the Jaffa riots in the early days of the Mandate, the British restricted Jewish immigration and territory slated for the Jewish state was allocated to Transjordan.[46] The rise of Nazism in the 1930s led to the Fifth Aliyah, with an influx of a quarter of a million Jews. This influx resulted in the Arab revolt of 19361939 and led the British to cap immigration with the White Paper of 1939. With countries around the world turning away Jewish refugees fleeing the Holocaust, a clandestine movement known as Aliyah Bet was organized to bring Jews to Palestine.[36] By the end of World War II, Jews accounted for 33% of the population of Palestine, up from 11% in 1922.[47][48]
Independence and first years
Main articles: History of Israel, 1947-1948 Civil War in Mandatory Palestine, 1948 Arab-Israeli War, and Declaration of Independence (Israel)
See also: Israel and the United Nations, Jewish exodus from Arab lands, 1948 Palestinian exodus, and Sh'erit ha-Pletah
David Ben-Gurion proclaiming Israeli independence on May 14, 1948 below a portrait of Theodor HerzlAfter 1945 the United Kingdom became embroiled in an increasingly violent conflict with the Jews.[49] In 1947, the British government withdrew from commitment to the Mandate of Palestine, stating it was unable to arrive at a solution acceptable to both Arabs and Jews.[50] The newly-created United Nations approved the UN Partition Plan (United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181) on November 29, 1947, dividing the country into two states, one Arab and one Jewish. Jerusalem was to be designated an international city a corpus separatum administered by the UN to avoid conflict over its status.[51] The Jewish community accepted the plan,[52] but the Arab League and Arab Higher Committee rejected it.[53]
Regardless, the State of Israel was proclaimed on May 14, 1948, one day before the expiry of the British Mandate for Palestine.[54] Not long after, five Arab countries Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and Iraq attacked Israel, launching the 1948 Arab-Israeli War,[54]although conflict between the Jews and Arabs of Palestine started earlier. After a year of fighting, a ceasefire was declared and temporary borders, known as the Green Line, were established. Jordan annexed what became known as the West Bank and East Jerusalem, and Egypt took control of the Gaza Strip. Israel was admitted as a member of the United Nations on May 11, 1949.[55]. During the war 711,000 Arabs, according to UN estimates, or about 80% of the previous Arab population, fled the country.[56] The fate of the Palestinian refugees today is a major point of contention in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.[57][58]
In the early years of the state, the Labor Zionist movement led by Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion dominated Israeli politics.[59][60] These years were marked by mass immigration of Holocaust survivors and an influx of Jews persecuted in Arab lands. The population of Israel rose from 800,000 to two million between 1948 and 1958.[61] Most arrived as refugees with no possessions and were housed in temporary camps known as ma'abarot. By 1952, over 200,000 immigrants were living in these tent cities. The need to solve the crisis led Ben-Gurion to sign a reparations agreement with West Germany that triggered mass protests by Jews angered at the idea of Israel "doing business" with Germany.[62]
During the 1950s, Israel was frequently attacked by Palestinian fedayeen, mainly from the Egyptian-occupied Gaza Strip.[63] In 1956, Israel joined a secret alliance with The United Kingdom and France aimed at recapturing the Suez Canal, which the Egyptians had nationalized (see the Suez Crisis). Despite capturing the Sinai Peninsula, Israel was forced to retreat due to pressure from the United States and the Soviet Union in return for guarantees of Israeli shipping rights in the Red Sea and the Canal.[64]
At the start of the following decade, Israel captured Adolf Eichmann, an architect of the Final Solution hiding in Argentina, and brought him to trial.[65] The trial had a major impact on public awareness of the Holocaust,[66] and to date Eichmann remains the only person sentenced to death by Israeli courts.[67]
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brianwb2277
9/6/2008 9:59:50 PM
I have to keep smiling at soemthing cause I dont wanna hear Figgy and Flapper are in Gitmo
loulouthesweet
9/6/2008 9:43:31 PM
OMG! I didn't know you liked Nascar! I LOVEEE NASCAR! My favorite driver is eather Jimmie Johnson (48) or Tony Stuwart (20)
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lyricalmystique
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Hi love, just droppping by to say HI!!!!
Meaghan
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It's been fixed :]
Meaghan
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LOL Thanks :D
But my graphics are really simple.
I'm trying to improve my graphic skills.
cheric
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cheric
9/5/2008 2:10:58 PM
Hey, you too, have a great weekend! :)))
Thanks for the lovely comment about the music!
(((HUGS)))
Meaghan
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LOL! Hah.
To post a link on a blog do this:
BLAH Replace LINK with your link & replace BLAH with whatever you want it to say. So when people click on "BLAH", it'll take them to the site. Keep HTTP there.
Meaghan
9/3/2008 5:45:17 PM
Thank You :]
I'm hoping to get more onliners on my blog =/
cheric
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glitter-graphics.com
brianwb2277
9/3/2008 4:20:05 PM
finally got a one bdrm Apt been packing up the last few days I still aint done
ripplesofhope
9/3/2008 2:39:20 PM
Thanks but if you don't know how to link newblog to zoomers I got no hope what so ever of figuring it out.
timeless
9/3/2008 2:18:25 PM
yes,I baby sat a cat here once before he started to drink so much
brianwb2277
9/2/2008 7:22:23 PM
How was the camping trip? havent heard from figgy or flapper in a few days hope they aint in the lock up
cheric
9/2/2008 9:40:34 AM
glitter-graphics.com
cheric
8/30/2008 2:42:38 PM
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EmmyL
8/30/2008 10:51:22 AM
hey Janis,how you doing?
mockturtlesoup
8/29/2008 2:20:43 AM
Hey Janis, thanx for all the comments, you're like the only other person who reads my blog. Lol. I like your blog, would comment but my internet connection is a real bastard, the son of incompetent phone manufacturers. Keep up the good work!!
cheric
8/28/2008 9:31:56 PM
Aww, thank you! You're so sweet! John Williams and YoYo Ma are both so talented -- I just love their "7 yrs in Tibet" sooo much! Hugs and have a great Friday and weekend! :)))
loulouthesweet
8/28/2008 7:20:14 PM
DANG. Your good in spanish. :[ I just know simple words. :D But I'm still learning. I hope I can get as good as you. -glare- :D
9/6/2008 9:59:50 PM
I have to keep smiling at soemthing cause I dont wanna hear Figgy and Flapper are in Gitmo
loulouthesweet
9/6/2008 9:43:31 PM
OMG! I didn't know you liked Nascar! I LOVEEE NASCAR! My favorite driver is eather Jimmie Johnson (48) or Tony Stuwart (20)
:]
lyricalmystique
9/6/2008 2:32:38 PM
Hi love, just droppping by to say HI!!!!
Meaghan
9/5/2008 8:21:09 PM
It's been fixed :]
Meaghan
9/5/2008 5:45:53 PM
LOL Thanks :D
But my graphics are really simple.
I'm trying to improve my graphic skills.
cheric
9/5/2008 2:12:22 PM
glitter-graphics.com
cheric
9/5/2008 2:10:58 PM
Hey, you too, have a great weekend! :)))
Thanks for the lovely comment about the music!
(((HUGS)))
Meaghan
9/4/2008 11:55:24 PM
LOL! Hah.
To post a link on a blog do this:
BLAH Replace LINK with your link & replace BLAH with whatever you want it to say. So when people click on "BLAH", it'll take them to the site. Keep HTTP there.
Meaghan
9/3/2008 5:45:17 PM
Thank You :]
I'm hoping to get more onliners on my blog =/
cheric
9/3/2008 4:23:28 PM
glitter-graphics.com
brianwb2277
9/3/2008 4:20:05 PM
finally got a one bdrm Apt been packing up the last few days I still aint done
ripplesofhope
9/3/2008 2:39:20 PM
Thanks but if you don't know how to link newblog to zoomers I got no hope what so ever of figuring it out.
timeless
9/3/2008 2:18:25 PM
yes,I baby sat a cat here once before he started to drink so much
brianwb2277
9/2/2008 7:22:23 PM
How was the camping trip? havent heard from figgy or flapper in a few days hope they aint in the lock up
cheric
9/2/2008 9:40:34 AM
glitter-graphics.com
cheric
8/30/2008 2:42:38 PM
glitter-graphics.com
EmmyL
8/30/2008 10:51:22 AM
hey Janis,how you doing?
mockturtlesoup
8/29/2008 2:20:43 AM
Hey Janis, thanx for all the comments, you're like the only other person who reads my blog. Lol. I like your blog, would comment but my internet connection is a real bastard, the son of incompetent phone manufacturers. Keep up the good work!!
cheric
8/28/2008 9:31:56 PM
Aww, thank you! You're so sweet! John Williams and YoYo Ma are both so talented -- I just love their "7 yrs in Tibet" sooo much! Hugs and have a great Friday and weekend! :)))
loulouthesweet
8/28/2008 7:20:14 PM
DANG. Your good in spanish. :[ I just know simple words. :D But I'm still learning. I hope I can get as good as you. -glare- :D
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